“If there’s no destination, there’s no way to tell that someone is in the wrong direction.”
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Without Heaven, there’s no way to tell if someone is on the right path or the wrong path.
Main argument
- If bad exists, then good exists
- If good & bad exists, then a moral law exists
- If moral law exists, then a moral law giver exists
“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” 1
C.S. Lewis
This argument is also directly connected to the problem of evil, which is, more of an argument for God’s existence rather than being against it. You can read my article here.
If someone claims something wrong, we presume there’s such thing as right. In order to make the case for all the goodness in the world, God must be that foundation by which we judge something good or bad.
Conciousness
Does the mind exists?
What if…
- There’s no objective right or wrong, everything is subjective & things evolve
- Free will is just an illusion
- A pre-deterministic worldview cannot co-exists with evil; because evil needs to be a voluntary act (otherwise it’s called an accident), and that will need a will/mind to execute it.
- If anyone claims that evil or injustice exists, then there must be a conscious to determine good from wrong
- If we live in a perfectly pre-determined world, it would be impossible to condemn any evil act because everything is ‘natural’, therefore making justice impossible to exist
- Atheists can be good people too
- Yes of course. It all depends on what they ultimately seek in their heart. We all search for God, implicitly or explicitly. We all derive sometimes. But we need the existence of God itself to justify the right or wrong path.
But if that end desire doesn’t exist, then we can’t determine by that standard if it’s right or wrong. Morality doesn’t depend on the belief of God but on the existence of God.
- Yes of course. It all depends on what they ultimately seek in their heart. We all search for God, implicitly or explicitly. We all derive sometimes. But we need the existence of God itself to justify the right or wrong path.
- …
“If there’s no destination, there’s no way to tell that someone is in the wrong direction.”
Without Heaven, there’s no way to tell if someone is on the right path or the wrong path.
Main argument
- If bad exists, then good exists
- If good & bad exists, then a moral law exists
- If moral law exists, then a moral law giver exists
“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” 2
C.S. Lewis
This argument is also directly connected to the problem of evil, which is, more of an argument for God’s existence rather than being against it. You can read my article here.
If someone claims something wrong, we presume there’s such thing as right. In order to make the case for all the goodness in the world, God must be that foundation by which we judge something good or bad.
Conciousness
Does the mind exists?
What if…
- There’s no objective right or wrong, everything is subjective & things evolve
- Free will is just an illusion
- A pre-deterministic worldview cannot co-exists with evil; because evil needs to be a voluntary act (otherwise it’s called an accident), and that will need a will/mind to execute it.
- If anyone claims that evil or injustice exists, then there must be a conscious to determine good from wrong
- If we live in a perfectly pre-determined world, it would be impossible to condemn any evil act because everything is ‘natural’, therefore making justice impossible to exist
- Atheists can be good people too
- Yes of course. It all depends on what they ultimately seek in their heart. We all search for God, implicitly or explicitly. We all derive sometimes. But we need the existence of God itself to justify the right or wrong path.
But if that end desire doesn’t exist, then we can’t determine by that standard if it’s right or wrong. Morality doesn’t depend on the belief of God but on the existence of God.
- Yes of course. It all depends on what they ultimately seek in their heart. We all search for God, implicitly or explicitly. We all derive sometimes. But we need the existence of God itself to justify the right or wrong path.
- …